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[dimm0505]

ОБНОВЛЕНИЕ на 20.10.2016


Название новой консоли - Nintendo Switch


Джимми Фэллон поиграл =) В том числе и в Зельду Свитч =))


Трехмерная модель приставки (планшета и джой-конов):
https://sketchfab.com/models/c2d8eef2b22841...cb0209465bfee0f

К разработке архитектуры консоли на этот раз была привлечена nVidia со своей кастомной версией мобильного GPU Tegra. Разработка, по словам самой nVidia заняла примерно 500 человеко-лет, и включила в себя помимо создания железа еще и разработку и адаптацию различного софта (игровые и физические движки, API, работа периферии, оптимизация работы ОС приставки и тп). Обратите внимание на заявление "The high-efficiency scalable processor", высокоэффективный масштабируемый процессор.

Внешний вид приставки и контроллеров:

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Различные методы управления и варианты игры компашкой:

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Поддержка издателями и разрабами движков и мидл-вэа:

» Third-party разработчики «

505 Games
Activision Publishing, Inc.
ARC SYSTEM WORKS Co., Ltd.
ATLUS CO., LTD.
Audiokinetic Inc.
Autodesk, Inc.
BANDAI NAMCO Entertainment Inc.
Bethesda
CAPCOM CO., LTD.
Codemasters®
CRI Middleware Co., Ltd.
DeNA Co., Ltd.
Electronic Arts
Epic Games Inc.
Firelight Technologies
FromSoftware, Inc.
Frozenbyte
GameTrust
GRASSHOPPER MANUFACTURE INC．
Gungho Online Entertainment, Inc.
HAMSTER Corporation
Havok
INTI CREATES CO., LTD.
KOEI TECMO GAMES CO., LTD.
Konami Digital Entertainment Co., Ltd.
LEVEL-5 Inc.
Marvelous Inc.
Maximum Games, LLC
Nippon Ichi Software, Inc.
Parity Bit Inc.
PlatinumGames Inc.
RAD Game Tools, Inc.
RecoChoku Co., Ltd.
SEGA Games Co., Ltd.
Silicon Studio Corporation
Spike Chunsoft Co., Ltd.
SQUARE ENIX CO., LTD.
Starbreeze Studios
Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
Telltale Games
THQ Nordic
Tokyo RPG Factory Co., Ltd.
TT Games
UBISOFT
Ubitus Inc.
Unity Technologies, Inc.
Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment
Web Technology Corp

The first thing to know about the new Nintendo Switch home gaming system: it’s really fun to play. With great graphics, loads of game titles and incredible performance, the Nintendo Switch will provide people with many hours of engaging and interactive gaming entertainment.

But creating a device so fun required some serious engineering. The development encompassed 500 man-years of effort across every facet of creating a new gaming platform: algorithms, computer architecture, system design, system software, APIs, game engines and peripherals. They all had to be rethought and redesigned for Nintendo to deliver the best experience for gamers, whether they’re in the living room or on the move.

A Console Architecture for the Living Room and Beyond
Nintendo Switch is powered by the performance of the custom Tegra processor. The high-efficiency scalable processor includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards.

The Nintendo Switch’s gaming experience is also supported by fully custom software, including a revamped physics engine, new libraries, advanced game tools and libraries. NVIDIA additionally created new gaming APIs to fully harness this performance. The newest API, NVN, was built specifically to bring lightweight, fast gaming to the masses.

Gameplay is further enhanced by hardware-accelerated video playback and custom software for audio effects and rendering.

We’ve optimized the full suite of hardware and software for gaming and mobile use cases. This includes custom operating system integration with the GPU to increase both performance and efficiency.

NVIDIA gaming technology is integrated into all aspects of the new Nintendo Switch home gaming system, which promises to deliver a great experience to gamers.

The Nintendo Switch will be available in March 2017. More information is available at https://www.nintendo.com/switch.

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13.01.2017 (12.01.2017 по американскому времени) будет проведена презентация консоли:
http://www.nintendo.com/switch

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/...455799302246400

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Aрс Техника методом "научного тыка" измерила размеры основных компонентов Свитча:

Joy-Con controller (individual): ~106.4mm x 34.3 (4.19 x 1.35")
Joined dual Joy-Con controller (no screen): ~157.5 x 115.8 mm (6.2 x 4.56")
Tablet (w/out controllers): ~184.1 x 106.4 mm (5.83" x 4.19")
Full system (tablet w/ two controllers): ~253.4 x 106.4 mm (9.98 x 4.19")

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» РАННИЕ СЛУХИ ПРО NX «

Давно нужно было создать эту тему в данном разделе с целью агрегирования известной информации о платформе и ее обсуждения. Итак, начнем потихоньку...

В марте 2015 года на очередной конференции Nintendo заявила о своей кооперации с крупнейшим японским производителем игрового контента для мобильных устройств DeNA Co. Ltd. Предполагалось создание сервиса, объединяющего все ниновские платформы, а также смарты и PC.


Кроме этого, теперь уже покойный Ивата подтвердил информацию о разработке какой-то "новой игровой платформы" под кодовым названием NX. Все подробности о новом железе узнаем только в следующем году (предположительно в марте), вот немного из переведенной с японского речи Иваты:

As proof that Nintendo maintains strong enthusiasm for the dedicated game system business, let me confirm that Nintendo is currently developing a dedicated game platform with a brand-new concept under the development codename "NX". It is too early to elaborate on the details of this project, but we hope to share more information with you next year.

Also, Iwata said Nintendo's new membership service would play a key role in NX.
Nintendo, together with DeNA, will jointly develop a new membership service which encompasses the existing Nintendo 3DS and Wii U systems, the new hardware system with a brand-new concept, NX, and smart devices and PCs, and Nintendo will be the primary party to operate this new membership service.
Unlike the Club Nintendo membership service that Nintendo has been operating, the new membership service will include multiple devices and create a connection between Nintendo and each individual consumer regardless of the device the consumer uses. This membership will form one of the core elements of the new Nintendo platform that I just mentioned.

Что характерно, в его речи упоминается сервис, объединяющий существующее железо (то бишь 3DS и Wii U), мобильные девайсы, PC и их новую таинственную платформу NX. И то, что этот сервис будет играть "ключевую" роль в концепции NX =)

Прошу обратить внимание на такую ремарку:

What we mean by integrating platforms is not integrating handhelds devices and home consoles to make only one machine. What we are aiming at is to integrate the architecture to form a common basis for software development so that we can make software assets more transferrable, and operating systems and their build-in applications more portable, regardless of form factor or performance of each platform.

То есть их цель не интегрировать портативку и стационар грубо говоря в одну "коробку", а как я понимаю создать масштабируемую архитектуру и использовать одни и те же программные средства разработки для каждой платформы (естественно с учетом железа), облегчить перенос ассетов игр, операционок и встроенных приложений между платформами.
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Новый президент Nintendo Kimishima заявил, что "NX - это не прямой последователь WiiU, как Ю была последователем Wii в свое время. Это совершенно другой уникальный, ни на что не похожий, игровый опыт."

“As far as NX goes, I’ve said it’s different and obviously a new experience,” he tells me. “If you look back to the beginning of our conversation today, we talked about the transition from Wii hardware to the Wii U hardware and how difficult it is to explain to the consumer base what is different and new about the new hardware. It’s difficult to convince them to switch from their current platform to the next platform.”

“That being said, I can assure you we’re not building the next version of Wii or Wii U. It’s something unique and different. It’s something where we have to move away from those platforms in order to make it something that will appeal to our consumer base.”

http://time.com/4131306/nintendo-kimishima-interview/
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По информации DigiTimes стало известно, что якобы в конце первого, начале второго квартала 2016 года на заводах FoxConn начнется массовая сборка NX. Помогать с производством комплектующих фоксконну будут такие конторы как Macronix, Pixart Imaging, Coxon Precise Industrial, Nishoku Technology, Delta Technology, Lingsen Precision Industries и Jentech. При чем будто бы цель Нинтендо поставить в 2016 году ни много ни мало, аж 20 000 000 (!) приставок =)

Nintendo's new game console is scheduled to enter mass production at the end of the first quarter 2016 and despite the fact that the Japan-based company is targeting to ship 20 million units in 2016, the device's upstream component suppliers expect shipments to only reach around 10-12 million units. Foxconn Electronics (Hon Hai Precision Industry) reportedly has been chosen to manufacture the device, but the company declined to comment on its clients or orders.

The new console is estimated to enter mass shipments in the second quarter. In addition to Foxconn, suppliers such as Foxconn Technology, Macronix, Pixart Imaging, Coxon Precise Industrial, Nishoku Technology, Delta Technology, Lingsen Precision Industries and Jentech will also supply components for the device.

Digitimes Research expects Microsoft's Xbox One and Sony's PlayStation 4 to achieve shipments of 13 and 18 million units, respectively in 2016, and if Nintendo's new console is able to ship 10 million units in the year, the company will then be able to maintain its competitiveness in the market.

http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20151130PD203.html
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В январе 2015 года один из топ-менеджеров AMD Devinder Kumar подтвердил информацию, что у них в разработке находится 2 полу-кастомных APU, один из которых на микроархитектуре x86, а второй на ARM и по меньшей мере один из них имеет отношение к игровому девайсу:

Back in December, AMD chief financial officer Devinder Kumar spurred speculation when he said at an analyst conference that AMD had two semi-custom chip designs in the works. “I will say that one is x86 and the other is ARM, and at least one will be beyond gaming, right. … They [the customers] are going to announce it and then … you will find out that it is AMD’s APU that is being used in those products.”

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/16/more-hin...-nxs-processor/

Сообщение отредактировал AleriF - Среда, 22 августа 2018, 02:17

[dimm0505]

Слух: NX даже слабее  чем хуан https://www.reddit.com/r/Nintendo_NX/commen..._a_frustration/

после цитаты:
I can not confirm exact specs.

Дальше уже можно не читать (но точно знает что она слабей XB1). Фуфло.

Единственной более-менее достоверной инфой про NX можно считать инфу, которую я публиковал немногим ранее. Источник проверен модерами реддита и неогафа, а это вам не хухры-мухры. Вот эта инфа еще раз (ну и она в основном просто общие слова, о которых и так догадаться можно):

As promised, I've decided to share some more NX information with you. This is second-hand information from trusted sources (like last time) and I have little reason to doubt its validity.
Here you go:
x86 architecture.
Backup data to Nintendo server (most likely My Nintendo).
Support for additional screen.
Can handle ports of current-gen games.
Will be able to interact with smartdevice apps.
Using NX software will unlock My Nintendo reward points.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comment...eward/?sort=old

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Firstly, I am not a video game developer but have a few friends who work in the industry. Secondly, what I'm about to share is second-hand information (from these people) and most of them do not work directly with Nintendo. Despite this I am 99% sure they would not share false information with me, as I have known most of them a long time and they would not benefit from spreading false information.
This is what I know about the NX and what I can share with you:
You are extremely unlikely to get any photo leaks before the NX is announced officially by Nintendo. The studios (that I know of) that are building / porting to NX only have access to software. Some of these are not particularly small studios either.
Based on the length of development cycles / porting time - if the NX launches this year, then most third party games will not be available until early - mid 2017. Software / frameworks are great to get a head start, but they won't even consider finalizing a game until it's been fully tested on hardware.
Developers who claim to have signed an NDA with Nintendo are most probably lying. The studio will be under NDA with Nintendo and the developers/designers will be under some form of NDA from their studio (not Nintendo). The only exception would be small indie developers and it's very unlikely Nintendo would provide them with a development kit until after the reveal.
NX games will be able to share information across multiple devices. I am not 100% sure what type of information this will be, but the functionality is (apparently) available to third party developers.
Remember, April fools day is very soon and people will go to extreme lengths to fool others. Also, nearly all developers and designers appreciate their jobs and will not intentionally risk their careers just to give unknown people on the internet a couple of months jump on information.
I hope that this information is useful despite it probably not the 'leak' you wanted.
Update: I'm going to try and get verified by a moderator before posting any more. I just have to work out the logistics.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoNX/comment..._want_to_clear/

Сообщение отредактировал dimm0505 - Суббота, 16 апреля 2016, 09:17